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Post by terrydec on Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:42 pm

If my right hand is my meter, then my left hand is definitely my signal tracer.  I had a nice Micranta from Radio Shack.  I had it for 40 years.  It finally went belly up.  Amazingly one exactly like it showed up on eBay.  However somebody else wanted it worse than me.  I bailed at $75.  That’s when I ran across this little Velleman project kit.  It is supposedly a signal tracer and signal injector.  It looks like a toy, but I’m betting that with a few innovations and upgrades I can turn it into a professional piece of test equipment.  The important part is not the guts, but the peripherals.  Plus it’s a kit, what’s not to love?  It uses a LM386 opamp for the tracer with a 40 db gain.  Hopefully that will be enough.  

(BTW- I once met the person who invented the opamp.  This was in 1975 and I used them to build a mixer board.)

I spent about $15 at Radio Shack today for a couple of RCA jacks, a small switch and a plastic project box.  I have everything else.  One thing I am going to do is glue a piece of metal to the bottom and use it as a ground to hopefully avoid hum.  I want to make a separate cable for RF.  I plan to put a .02 disk cap and a diode in series with the tip.  I thought about jacks and considered screw on or BNC.  I chose RCA for their practicability.  I’m going to document every stage of the construction.  This can also be a group project.  I’m open to any and all suggestions.  Wish me luck.
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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:33 am

All afternoon I've been thinking how great it would be to find an old RF probe. There is a Heathkit on eBay. How weird is that? Too bad they want too much for it.

You know you're old when you can't read the colors on those tiny resistors, even with a magnifying glass.
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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:36 pm

Okay- Moment of truth.
(I had to go back to Radio Shack to replace a defective RCA jack.)
I have had a really fun day. I've made probes and everything. Of course I'm probably grasping at straws. I just made the last connection and I have yet to turn it on. Can you feel the excitement?

I'm taking a long break, then I'm going to double check everything and...?
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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:41 pm

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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:58 pm

Ah-Ha.

It does work but the output is distorted. Probably a bad LM386 chip. I'd test it but I need a signal tracer. Ha, ha. I'll put it aside for now.

Geez, I love to assemble stuff.

Oh well, that's the saga of the Vellerman K7000. Thanks for looking
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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:18 pm

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Post by terrydec on Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:41 pm

So, I ordered a new LM386 IC. Actually, I ordered 10. That's the smallest order I could get, so if anybody would like one let me know. They are great little amplifiers with an output of 0.5 watts.

If it is still distorted then I switched a resistor somewhere, which I doubt.

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Post by John Bartley on Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:59 pm

Terry,

I've built a couple of those Velleman kits and they've always been fun to do. Let us know how you make out with getting it working!

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Post by terrydec on Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:03 pm

I just tried to get it tracing RF but it ain't working.

My favorite kit was a Ramsey FM 25 transmitter.

I wish I could get a job building kits.
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Post by terrydec on Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:18 pm

So- this should come as no surprise: I bought two more Vellerman kits. One is a 5 watt amp and the other is a high gain microphone preamp. I should be able to cobble something together. I had no idea how much my life depended on a good signal tracer.
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Post by John Bartley on Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:25 pm

I had no idea how much my life depended on a good signal tracer

I see the same thing in my job as a (self employed) power equipment mechanic. We get used to doing something a certain way after so many years (or maybe decades) and when that particular method is not available we feel lost!! .... at least I do.

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Post by terrydec on Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:37 pm

Yep! Me too. The part I miss most is the RF jack. Maybe this next project will work out better than the last, which actually worked, but was distorted. I need to go from a phono cartridge to the plate of an output tube. I already have some good ideas.
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Post by terrydec on Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:53 pm

Life always entertains me. Sometimes it sneaks up behind me and hits me in the head with a hammer of silly putty, just so I remember who is in charge.

I just bought, on eBay, for $45, a Tenma 72-540 signal tracer. This unit actually puts my old Micranta to shame.

Sometimes I just have to laugh. Sometimes hysterically.
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Post by terrydec on Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:02 pm

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Post by John Bartley on Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:40 pm

terrydec wrote:

Neat!

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Post by terrydec on Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:06 pm

Ain't it though. However, now I will have two kits that I bought in my panic. Oh well, the entertainment will be worth it. Did I mention that I really love building kits. {Surprised
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Post by terrydec on Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:17 pm

I got the Vellerman microphone preamp kit today. Like a good meal I'm putting off building it.
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Post by terrydec on Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:25 pm

Done. The only problem is that I need my new signal tracer to test it. (I really hope that thing works.)

Wow! 20 discrete components on a board 1" x 1 1/2". Through the mag lamp the tip of my iron looked huge. It reminded me of the old iron that my grandfather used. He heated it on the stove.
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Post by John Bartley on Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:51 pm

terrydec wrote:

Wow!  20 discrete components on a board 1" x 1 1/2".  Through the mag lamp the tip of my iron looked huge.  

I remember that feeling when I built my SSTrans. The parts were sooooo small and the pencil tip looked like a baseball bat by comparison. Someone had tipped me off to the fact that the best way to solder very small SS components was to use a lot of heat and work fast, then use a heat sink to reduce the possibility of heat damage to the components. It was an interesting adventure for someone whose total experience was tube gear. I guess I did it correctly seeing as it worked...

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Post by terrydec on Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:40 pm

I was told to twist a piece of wire around the end of the iron. I've never tried it.
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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:59 pm

So- I have looked at several RF probes on-line. They all have the same problem. They can only be used on a circuit of 50v. Of course I need to be able to block 400-600v. Any suggestions?

BTW- why am I the only one posting stuff? You all still recuperating from the holidays?
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Post by John Bartley on Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:26 pm

terrydec wrote:

BTW- why am I the only one posting stuff?  You all still recuperating from the holidays?

I've been a bit busy this winter doing outdoor stuff, like this ::


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Post by terrydec on Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:01 pm

Ouch! Time for some hot cocoa.
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Post by Bill Cahill on Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:07 pm

Those pictures look beautiful, as long as I'm not living in it....

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Post by terrydec on Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:41 pm

YES!!!

The signal tracer came today.

IT WORKS!!!

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