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220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by terrydec on Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:43 pm

Well, it's been two weeks and I'm really happy to be back in my old place. There is just one minor problem. In the living room there is a big 220 air conditioner but it has a shorted compressor. My landlord shopped around and a new one is $500 to $600. He did find a 12,000BTU 110 Volt at Home Depot for $300. My assignment, if I chose to accept it, is to turn a 220 outlet into a 110.

Please tell me it is this easy- Open the 220 outlet, cap the red wire and install a 110 outlet with the black, white and ground.
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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by Conelrad on Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:03 pm

Measure the voltages between to verify there is indeed a neutral, then proceed as planned.

I'd use a lightbulb and leads, as the usual digital meter will show 'phantom' readings due to it's high impedance input.

The bulb replicates some real load.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:32 pm

I'd require the landlord to just pony up for the 220 volt unit.  Why should the cost be your problem?  You pay rent, the landlord is required to provide a place fit to live in.  That is how it works.  I would find a landlord who is not such a cheapskate if it was me. Fooling around, kluging up electrical service is a good way to burn your home to the ground.

When we first got this place, I noticed some "home engineering" behind the dryer, but never really gave it much thought. Until one day the dryer quit drying. It would run, but it would not dry. I called Mr. Morris, the local Whirlpool doctor. He found only 110 volts on the heater in the dryer. We got to looking and somebody had hooked one side of the 220 to a 110 outlet down the wall, and one 110 outlet behind the dryer. Apparently, there was a gas dryer in the house at one time. The dryer would give you a tingle from time to time as well. I rewired this house totally, every square inch of wiring in this place has been in my hands.

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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by terrydec on Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:44 pm

Wildcat445 wrote:I'd require the landlord to just pony up for the 220 volt unit.  Why should the cost be your problem?  You pay rent, the landlord is required to provide a place fit to live in.  That is how it works.  I would find a landlord who is not such a cheapskate if it was me.  Fooling around, kluging up electrical service is a good way to burn your home to the ground.

When we first got this place, I noticed some "home engineering" behind the dryer, but never really gave it much thought.  Until one day the dryer quit drying.  It would run, but it would not dry.  I called Mr. Morris, the local Whirlpool doctor.  He found only 110 volts on the heater in the dryer.  We got to looking and somebody had hooked one side of the 220 to a 110 outlet down the wall, and one 110 outlet behind the dryer.  Apparently, there was a gas dryer in the house at one time.  The dryer would give you a tingle from time to time as well.  I rewired this house totally, every square inch of wiring in this place has been in my hands.  

My relationship with my landlord is complicated. First of all I owe him a LOT of money from when he has helped me out. Second he spent almost $500 on helpers just to get me moved in one day. Yes, he is a cheapskate but he has always been there for me.

It sounds to me like somebody tried to split the panel to provide the separate 110 outlet. That would cause the symptoms you describe, especially the tingle. The outlets probably shared the return wire.

I do most of my landlord's electrical work. If necessary he has a licensed electrician sign off on my work. He has never found a problem. I had to replace a panel one time and he said he had never seen such good work.

I've looked at the breaker panel. I am going to make sure there is a black, (hot), white, (return), and copper, (ground). Then I will be in control of the wires. He will wind up with an unused breaker.

BTW- I ALWAYS make sure to have somebody else in the room when I work on a panel in case of emergency. In this case I will interrupt the service at the main breaker, but you never know.
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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by 75X11 on Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:02 pm

You might call the licensed electrician and ask him if your plan is the right one. Tell him you will then have your landlord call him to pronounce on it. Win win.
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Post by terrydec on Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:42 pm

75X11 wrote:You might call the licensed electrician and ask him if your plan is the right one.  Tell him you will then have your landlord call him to pronounce on it.  Win win.

Well, I did call his guy.  He said that it doesn't need a licensed electrician.  He knows I can wire the panel right.  Since there is no ground wire I should use the red wire as a ground wire.  And there will be a spare 20 amp breaker.
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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by 75X11 on Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:31 am

Sounds mighty good!
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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by terrydec on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:06 am

So I dived into a hot panel, (I know!), sweating like mad, and hooked it up. I have an outlet tester and it shows that the outlet is correct The biggest problem was identifying the right cable.

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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by 75X11 on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:47 am

You be careful!  We want you to stay safe.  Keep us posted.
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Re: 220 VAC outlet to 110VAC.

Post by terrydec on Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:19 pm

75X11 wrote:You be careful!  We want you to stay safe.

Where's the fun in that-  Shocked
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Post by 75X11 on Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Very Happy
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