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Post by Jerry R. on Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:16 pm

I have one vinyl record that plays a little slow.  What I have noticed is when I lay that record on top of another record, I can see a little (not much) daylight between the two edges of the records.  So, it appears not lying really flat.  Would that non-flatness contribute to a record playing a bit slow?  Or, maybe it is something else.

Any ideas??

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Post by Wildcat445 on Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:41 pm

If it is just the one record, it is a good bet that record is warped and is causing the problem. If it were something with the record player, all the records would run show.

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Post by Jerry R. on Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:08 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.  It make sense, but it is surprising that just a little of non-flatness would cause the slow play.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:08 am

Records are designed to grip with the outer edge of the record and the label. If they are warped, they can slip.

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Post by Dan Walker on Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:15 pm

It does not take very much slippage to be noticeable, especially at 33 1/3 . You probably would not see it slip while it is playing.

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Post by Jerry R. on Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:40 pm

I found the last two responses very informative. It gave me some info as to how records tend to adhere to each other and I could expect some slippage at 33 1/3. I had no idea the record’s edge was so important. That is where I see the daylight.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:47 pm

Warped records can play just fine singly. They can cause problems used with a changer. The edge and the label are the "friction" points. Records are designed with the playing grooves somewhat indented so they do not get friction wear being stacked on a changer.

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Post by 75X11 on Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:55 pm

If you should have access to any, the rubberized mesh sheet people use for putting on their kitchen shelving would prevent slipping. Cut a piece the size of a record with a spindle hole and put it on the surface the record slips on and the record on top.
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Post by Jerry R. on Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:09 pm

Wildcat 445

I was okay until your latest response.  You said warped records would play okay singularly.  In my case, I played the record in question at all positions, singularly and in various stack combinations.  In addition, I did the following:

1.  Played the same record on another record changer (somewhat newer) at all positions and it played slow there as well.

2. On the older record player, even though other records sounded normal, I was suspicious that it might have a slight speed issue.  So, I replaced the idler wheel and the 33 1/3 speed turret.  The record in question still played slow.  And, the other records sounded normal – maybe a little better, but difficult to tell.

So, I could have more than one issue with the problem record.

The rubberized mesh sheet is a clever idea; not sure if I want to go to that effort for one record.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:18 pm

May be gummy motor bearings.

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