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Warning: Don't believe everything you're told!

Post by terrydec on Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:16 pm

At 4:30 AM on September 19th I woke with the worst pain in my side I've ever had.  Not having a ride I took an ambulance to the ER.  Upon arrival, (okay several hours later), I was given a shot of morphine and a CT scan was made.  Several hours later the doctor told me I had a kidney stone.  I was given a prescription for Norco, (See "Drying out"), told to drink 3 liters of water a day and strain my urine.

On September 29th I was seen by a urologist.  There they X-Rayed me and then gave me another CT scan.  No stone was found.  It was agreed that there was no way I could have passed a stone without knowing it.  However a couple of significant cysts were found in my right kidney.  I will have an ultrasound for those later.

Question: What do you think happened at the ER?
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Post by 75X11 on Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:38 am

Hard to tell. Your cysts may have appeared to be a stone(s) to them. it took em over a year fo find my gallstone. I hope your dry season resumes and they find out the trouble and a treatment besides just pain meds. I am having to wear a torture device on my achilles tendon with a lump on my sole I don't need to treat plantar fasciitis I don't have... yet.
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Post by willy3486 on Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:50 am

I have had Kidney stones a lot. I have had two types, one is round like a stone and the other is really small with barbs on them. I had a big stone the size of a cherry pit I passed one day at work. I have also had the small barb type. The barb type looks about like pepper as in salt and pepper. If I had not known what it was I might have not realized I passed the pepper like stone. As far as the two I will take the bigger round ones any day. The pepper like stones hurt a lot worse.

I wound up in the er with them. The Dr was talking to me and asked how do I feel like beer. I didn't know what he was getting at and I asked why do you ask. Mind you I had never even tasted a beer at this time. He said a good way to get rid of them was to get a six pack and drink one at a time and not go to the bathroom and hold it as long as I could. Since they gave me so many pain shots they couldn't give me any more. But by then I could handle that pain. A few days later it hit again. I got brave and went and got a six pack.

I waited for my wife to get home because never having a drink before I didn't know if my head would explode or what might happen.  She got home and here is what happened.

1st one  It was nasty and I wondered why anyone would even drink this swill.
2nd one  I couldn't believe I got the first down
3rd one  I wondered why I hadn't discovered this before
4th one I begin to wonder if I should have got two six packs in case one didn't work
5th one  I was doing my best to lean on the floor so that it wouldn't float away.
6th one  I continued to lean on the floor the best I could but I crawled to the bathroom to test this out.

I used the bathroom and the stone did move out of my kidney but got stuck between the kidney and bladder. I got to see a specialist that week and he assigned me the first surgery the day he did them. They used a laser to bust them and I highly recomend that way if you have them removed. Other than having to lay still for a week I was fine. As far as the beer I have remembered that trick he told me. I have done that maybe a couple of times over the last 15 to 20 years. Other than kidneystones I won't even get a 6 pack.

As far as what happened to you here is a thought. The ER DR may not have had specialist training in kidneys, He may have been a family practician type. While he may have been trained to see something there the specialist has probably been trained more to be able to tell the difference between a stone and cyst. I see this type of stuff at work all the time. Computer techs are similar to Drs. I specialize in hardware. I can take stuff to board level. I am the only one here that is like that. Others are like specialists in networking and programing. Then we have the ones similar to the family medical Drs, in that they know something is wrong, they can pinpoint the area that is wrong then send it to the hardware person, me or to networking specialist. While I am good at hardware I am weak at software. Your ER dr may have saw something there and since lets speculate that 99% are stones that is what he called them. Then the specialist saw it they might see a off shoot,shape or other feature that lets them know its a cyst.

I wouldn't be too worried about why they didn't see it I would work on getting better.

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Post by N7ZAL on Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:10 pm

Interesting Willy and I remember years ago a fellow who was told to drink a glass or two of wine every day to eliminate any future kidney stones. Might be some truth based on it based on your Dr. ?
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Post by 75X11 on Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:02 pm

N. A. beer and cranberry juice have good flushing properties also, in the event alcohol is an issue.
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