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Post by Wildcat445 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:17 am

A man called me this evening wanting this changer serviced.  I do not have a picture or any particulars, but, if I understand correctly, this is a VM-built changer used in GE consoles and TOTL portable stereos, circa 1960.  The Vacu-magic feature is a little suck/blow arrangement designed to keep the needle clean.  I have never seen the setup nor do I know how it works.  I read a post about one eons ago.  Does anybody out there have any experience with this system?  I need to get model numbers and pictures to help with my research.  I don't think the changer would pose any great difficulty, but he wants that Vacu-magic system to work as well.  I want my ducks in a row before I commit myself.  I don't work on other peoples' stuff generally, but this thing has piqued my curiosity.

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Post by 75X11 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:53 pm

At first I thought this was going to be a record changing system like the two sided changers of the 1940's. Never heered of a system like that. Wonder how well the arm would track with the plumbing that comes to mind.
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Post by Wildcat445 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:36 pm

There is a small hose, about the size of the vacuum line on a car that goes thru the tone arm up to about where the cartridge is. There is a honeycomb shaped doodad on the end of the hose, laying along side the cartridge. There must be some type of little compressor located in the cabinet that operates the system. There is a brush on the end of the tone arm. The tone arm is one of the fat arms used on GE stereos, much like the one I just finished and documented on here. I would only guess that there must be some sort of weight compensation to account for the additional weight on the tone arm.

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Post by 75X11 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:41 pm

That would be an ideal application for silicone rubber vacuum line. It comes in many sizes and is very supple and flexible.
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Post by Bill Cahill on Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:17 pm

I don't think VM made that system, though I could be wrong. Sounds like it was added, unless it says that name on the changer. Then, you have a rare bird there. Could be valuable.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:51 pm

It allegedly says "Vacu-matic" on the tone arm. If you look at the tone arm on that GE I recently did, you will notice that the cartridge sets slightly to one side. The Vacu-matic setup sets to the side of the cartridge. As far as I can tell from what little I know it's a 1200 series VM changer. It allegedly looks "just like" the one I documented.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Hmmmm. Interesting. I'd like to see pictures of this...

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Post by Wildcat445 on Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:33 am

I hope to get some pictures in the next week or so. We have a meeting tentatively set up for one day next week.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:05 pm

I found this on ebay and thought it might answer some questions about Vacu-matic.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960-GE-General-Electric-Stereo-Ad-Resonant-Stereo-/291395609195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d888226b

Apparently the correct terminology for this system is Vacu-Magic. I changed the title of the thread to reflect this.

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Post by 75X11 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:48 pm

Interesting feature. Kind of like the cutting pickup on the old record cutting lathes.
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Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:15 pm

I don't see anything about vacu magic. I see GE resonant stereo. It does mention it's the only player that cleans records while it plays them.

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Post by 75X11 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:02 pm

The vacuum feature is what the ad being sold is touting in conjunction with the "resonant stereo". Note the photos of the record grooves.
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Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:27 pm

I'm aware of that. I just don't see mention of magic vacuim.

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Post by 75X11 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:20 pm

The first paragraph of the ad copy both describes and names it. You can see the tubing routed beside the pivot of the tone arm also.
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Post by Wildcat445 on Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:56 pm

This is a new thing for me. I am going to see the real McCoy sometime this week, hopefully.

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Post by Tony V on Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:13 pm

I've seen about a dozen of these over the years. They work quite well as long as the tubing doesn't harden which would effect tonearm function. I've had to replace the tubing in a couple of them.
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Post by Wildcat445 on Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:12 pm

I had an appointment to go see this changer for evaluation. I called the owner, three times, and he has not returned my call. Stand by and I'll keep you posted.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:22 pm

Fingers crossed. I want pictures..............

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Post by Wildcat445 on Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:27 pm

Here are more pictures of a Vacu-Magic system. I still hope to get some of my own pictures fairly soon.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GENERAL-ELECTRIC-VACU-MAGIC-RECORD-PLAYER-CHANGER-/251891655150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3aa5e9a1ee

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Post by Bill Cahill on Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:11 am

If it wasn't so expensive, I'd buy it...........

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