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Post by Wildcat445 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:52 pm

I have been putting my records (vinyl) and tapes (tapes) on CD. Not MP3, not I-pad, I-pod, or other device. CD. Obsolete discs that only old guys mess with. Kinda like records, maybe? I digress.

I have noticed that the following artists never recorded a bad note. Their material is always consistently of excellent quality. I don't have to delete or skip over material that I don't like, or that is not "typy" for the artist. I'm sure you can add to this list, but here are my candidates:


*Ray Price
*Connie Francis
*Patsy Cline
*Bobby Vinton
*Jim Reeves
*Eddy Arnold
*Helen O'Connell
*Rosemary Clooney
*Jimmy Dean
*Carl Smith

I would normally add Lawrence Welk and Billy Vaughn to this list. However ironically, these two artists recorded albums of the same title, "Golden Millions", that just so happened to be the worst recording they ever did. The Welk version sounds like his band went on strike and he replaced them with 101 Strings. No "tweedly-tweedly" ala the "real" Lawrence Welk. The same for the Billy Vaughn version. No four part sax. All strings and elevator music.

Feel free to nominate your candidates for "they never recorded a bad note."

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Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:36 pm

Harry Lauder, Billy Murray, Vernon Dalhart, and, by the way, they all had to do a lot of rehearsing to be "perfect".

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Post by Dr. Radio on Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:10 pm

I'll add Ray Charles.

CD's? Those are sooo 1995!

Just kidding ya!

You'll love these. I've used them to convert some of my iTunes to CD. My daily driver was built before the mp3 input jack was standard on GM vehicles. So i need a CD...

It's the best of both worlds [visually]!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00009WO51
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Post by willy3486 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:56 pm

Regardless if folks like him or not I would say Willie Nelson is one of those folks who can do it perfect the first time. I had a friend that was the guy who ran the mixing board/recording in studios. He told me this about Willie. He came in to do a song one day. He started up a chat like they were long lost friends. Willie asked if he minded if he smoked a "J". My friend said no your the artist you do whatever you want to. He asked my friend if he wanted a "J" also and he said no. They talked about 10 minutes or so and then Willie said "well friend I guess we oughta sing this song. He went into the booth and started singing. He recorded the song in one take. My friend said it was one of the biggest hits for Willie and he did it in one take. He said it was amazing that it was done in one take when most do at least ten takes. He said that when Willie showed up from then on it was the same, They would chat ,he would light up a "J" and most of the time do it in one take. I am not advocating smoking a J but its amazing he could do it in one take most of the time.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:56 pm

I still like records better.

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Post by 75X11 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:38 am

How about Frank Sinatra, or Nat King Cole?
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Post by willy3486 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:06 pm

There is a couple of guys who sound fantastic but are forgotten by most.
One is Billy Ekstine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG223EVSEls

The other is Arthur Prystock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk-E0xUQh10

These two guys are similar but have a really smooth voice. Its a wonder they are not as famous as Sinatra or Nat King Cole. I picked up a few 78 records of Prysock right after I discovered him on you tube. A couple of mellow voices.

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Post by 75X11 on Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:53 pm

Eckstine Is a good choice.  I'd also like to add Joe Williams...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s1N6HKzNm8

And Ivie Anderson...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR8eFPEktw0
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Post by Wildcat445 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:05 pm

I should add Faron Young and Mel Tillis to the list.

I omitted Willie Nelson from the list for one specific reason. His association with Waylon Jennings and Kris Kristofferson. And that horrible "outlaw" biker bar sound they developed. Once a person has heard "Stardust" "Funny How Time Slips Away" (with Faron Young) and "Willie and The Wheel" with Asleep at the Wheel, his outlaw material becomes more disappointing. Willie could pick and sing with the best of them, no doubt.

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Post by Wildcat445 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:18 pm

Bill Cahill wrote:Harry Lauder, Billy Murray, Vernon Dalhart,  and, by the way, they all had to do a lot of rehearsing to be "perfect".

This brings up an interesting question. Back in Vernon Dalhart's day, before audio tape, did they not record direct to disc? Did they not make a "master" then make copies from it? Then, when the master became sufficiently worn, did they not have to make another recording? This being the case, is it not commonly found that two or more recordings of the same title from the same artist sound differently because they were from different "Masters"? Just before records became obsolete, they tried "direct to disc" again. It was a big deal, as I remember. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Also, did not Vernon Dalhart record on the "Perfect" label, as well as Victor and maybe others?

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Post by 75X11 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:10 pm

When I was on YouTube yesterday I had also came across this descriptive short about electroacoustic record production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FseSwvUNPA
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Post by Wildcat445 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:05 pm

I had seen that clip before. It's amazing to me that 78's sounded as good as they did. Thanks, 75.

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Post by 75X11 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:32 pm

Here is another bit of record history, from Indiana.  This label was mentioned on Ken Burns' Jazz.

http://www.waynet.org/nonprofit/gennett.htm
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Post by Wildcat445 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:22 pm

I was not familiar with the Gennett label.  Thank you for sharing that information, 75. Congrats on post #1000.

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Post by willy3486 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:35 pm

I think I have some Gennett records. I need to get my 78s out and look them over.

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Post by 75X11 on Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:53 am

And thank you WC, I guess I missed your milestone the same way I did mine!
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