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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:05 pm

Would anyone like to own a new Edsel?

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Post by stringbender31 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:19 pm

That has a face only a mother could love! No
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Post by Motorola man on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:38 pm

Hmmmm, looks like a Crown Vic with a bad nose job.
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Post by fixinmyphono on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:03 pm

I like it! At least it's not the same hum drum look that all the other cars looks seem to follow.My Father was a ford mechanic (for 55 years)and worked on Edsels when they came out.He said they were a good car .They had push buttons on the steering wheel to change from forward and reverse and they like.Only problem was they were priced wrong at the time he said.. Smile
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Post by 35Z5 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:39 pm

Motorola man wrote:Hmmmm, looks like a Crown Vic with a bad nose job.

Yep either a Crown Vic or Grand Marquis from '03-'05... If one knows his panther chassis Fords/Mercs, the park lights give it away...
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Post by willy3486 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:48 pm

As far as Edsels goes I had a friend who worked in a store on Saturdays. One day this Edsel, a pink one, drove up to the store. The guy got out and looked around the store. At that time you would hardly ever see a Edsel. The guy came up to the counter and said give me your money this is a robbery. My friend asked him who put him up to it and the guy showed him a gun and said it was no joke. My friend got the money and gave it to him thinking he was going to be shot.

The guy got the money and ran out. My friend called the cops and he told them what happened. Anyway about 15 minutes later they brought this guy in and he confirmed it was the robber. Robbing the store in his moms pink edsel wasn't the dummest thing the robber did. It was his comment as he was taken out of the store. He asked the cops how thy found him so fast.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:50 pm

Gawd, that car is ugly!!!
I like the original Edsels much better..........
I love the Edsel Don Knotts drives in "The ghost, and, Mr. Chicken".
This thing looks like it's got agiant toothache.
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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:42 pm

It's a Grand Marquis, I found the photo from a car show a few years back.

I owned 2 1959 Edsels, one black 2 door sedan and one red/white 2 door hard top. By 1959 the Edsel shared most everything with Ford. From the glass up it was all Ford, the drive train was all Ford and the dashboard was Ford with minor changes. Hoever the damage was done to it's reputation and it was all over in November 1959 with around 300 1960 models being made.

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Post by 35Z5 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:34 pm

Actually there were 2846 1960 Edsels..

One of my uncles had a '60 4dr sedan, swapped the letters on the back to read SEDEL...

Later one of my friends bought a '59 2dr sedan that had the 223 6cyl & three on the tree, everyone was amazed to see a Edsel with a 6...
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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:42 pm

Actually there were 2846 1960 Edsels..


Yes you're right the 300 number was for 1960 2 door hard tops.

All '58 Edsels were V8's but there were many 6's in 1959, both of mine had the 292 V8 with the 2 speed automatic. Also the hood did not open backwards as it did on the Ford.

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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:47 pm

This is not a photo of mine but it is exactly like the one I had right down to the color. I'll have to see if I can find a photo of mine.

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Post by Bill Cahill on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:52 pm

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo! Nice car!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beautiful!!!!!!
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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:55 pm

I sold it when I moved from Connecticut to Virginia in 1989, a big mistake. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Bill Cahill on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:00 pm

So many people tell me the Edsel was a piece of junk. I don't believe them. And, that car in the Don Knotts movie sure had alot of pep.........
I think it's a schnazzy car...........
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Post by Guest on Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:27 pm

There was a problem with the teletouch selector for the automatic transmissions for 1958. That option was dropped by 1959. The 1959 Edsel and the 1959 Ford are mecanically identical and 1959 was a great year for the Ford, it almost out sold chevy. It was a bad time for ford to come out with a new model more expensive than the Ford. 1958 was a resession year.

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Post by willy3486 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:10 am

Some of the parts of the Edsel continued to be made even after they quit making them. My old pickup has the original engine in it. It is a 66 ford f100. The original engine is a 352 FE. The FE stands for Ford Edsel from what I understand.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:40 am

The original was the 332 FE made in 58/59. The 352 was made from '58 through '66, after that the 390/406/427/428 continued. The 360 was nothing more than a 390 with a 352 crankshaft and only used in trucks until 1976. One other engine was the 410 used only in mercury for 1966 and 1967. It was also a 390 but with a 428 crankshaft. All of these engines were "FE" engines. The cars were sold under the MEL (Mercury/Edsel/Lincoln) division. I know it doesn't make sense with the engine including Ford. If you look at a 1960 Mercury Comet from the rear you will see it's kinship to the Edsel. It was supposed to be a downsized Edsel but with the Edsel eliminated Mercury got the new car added to it's line-up.

That 1966 F100 is a great truck, I had the shortbed model. Smile

Edit the 406 was only produced in '62 and '63....the 390 started in '61

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Post by 35Z5 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:50 am

And of course the MEL engine is a total different design than the FE engines and by the early '60s were only used used in Lincolns... Maybe the FE should have been renamed FEL or just MF? (uhh maybe FM would be better)...

Interestingly MEL came in 383, 410, 430 & 462cu in sizes with the 430 & 462 being the most common... The MEL 410('58 Edsel only I believe) shares almost nothing with with later FE 410...

I've never owned a MEL, but had 352, 360, 390, 410, 427 & 428 FE over the years, still own a pair of 428CJ... I did own a '62 Galaxie 500XL that was a "G" code 406 car but had a 390 transplanted by the time I got hold of it... The 390 had the 406 heads and exhaust manifolds, guessing the 406 had exited a rod or two(fairly common if spun over 6500 RPM)... By the mid/late 60s Ford had distanced it's self from the Edsel moniker by saying FE was symbol for iron...

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Post by Resistance is Futile on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:14 pm

Actually the Edsel started out with the pushbuttons in the steering wheel, but had a lot of problems, so they moved them over to the dashboard. But by that time the public was Leary of buying them with pushbuttons (even though the Dash ones worked great). So that was, I think the lack of popularity and its quick demise.

I had a 1960 Dodge Senica with Pushbuttons and also a Dodge Dart of the same year with pushbutton transmission and they were very trouble free, from my experience.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:27 pm

Cliff the "high end" '58s did have the push buttons in the center of the wheel and marketed as "Teletouch", lesser models had the column shift lever. And yes the Teletouch was a nightmare and completely gone on the '59 models. It was Chrysler Corporation who placed the push buttons in the dash board.

The reason for Fords failure had to do with the relays and servos being so close to road grime and the exhaust heat. Maybe Chrysler had shields on theirs.

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Post by Tony V on Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:27 pm

Chrysler used a mechanical cable system on theirs where Edsels were electric. Thats why Chrysler had very few problems with their pushbutton transmissions.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:12 pm

I learn something new every day. When I saw the data plate on junked Edsels, they had the name in big block letters. On other ones they had MEL on the data plate where EDSEL had been. Always wondered what that meant.

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Post by 35Z5 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:27 pm

While we're talking FE engines there was a 361 avail in the lesser '58 & maybe(?) '59 Edsels, had same 352 .050 overbore(or 390 std size) of the truck 360...

There were also 361 & 391 FT(large truck) engines that also had same bore stroke as 360 & 390...
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Post by willy3486 on Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:40 pm

While we are on the engines I am curious about the 352,360,390. I was told these engines were basically the same except for the bore of the engine. Is that true? I was told they were designed the same except for that. Also did anyone try to explain to others that yes you did have a 352 and that it was a Ford and not a Chevy? On more than one occasion I had to explain it was a ford 352 and not a chevy or a 360,390.

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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:06 pm

there was a 361 avail in the lesser '58 & maybe(?) '59 Edsels

Yes, for the Ranger and Pacer models.


The 352 had it's own bore and stroke. The 390 is the same casting with a larger bore and stroke. The 360 was a 390 block with a 352 crankshaft. The reason for dropping the 352 in favor of the 360 was production costs, only one type of block was required. The 360 was one used in light trucks and was never installed in the car line.

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