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Post by BarbS on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:06 pm

I've found myself a beautiful phonograph for sale in India. It's beautiful! He's accepted my offer of if I pay for the shipping. How can I find out shipping? I'm nervous...

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Post by BarbS on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:10 pm

Will I ever learn to upload pic's here? sorry. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Wildcat445 on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:23 pm

I'm not sure I can advise you about shipping something like that. It will surely have to be well-packed to survive the trip from India.

That certainly is an interesting phonograph. Not sure I have ever seen another like it. Admittedly, there are others more familiar with them than I, for sure. Do you know anything about it? Is it a reproduction of some type?. Parts of it look too "new" or recent to be on an "old" phonograph. Just curious.

Good luck and enjoy.

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Post by BarbS on Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:25 pm

I thought that too which adds to my nervousness. They say it's an original antique.
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Re: Too good to be true?

Post by Bill Cahill on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:11 pm

I'm sorry to say this, but, that is what is called a crapophone.
It's fake, it's made of home made parts, and, pieces of portable wind up victrolas. They often have motor problems, including broken springs.
Alot of these are on ebay.
Personally, if you can get out of it, I'd advise you to.
The horns are pretty thin brass.
The elbow is plumbing elbow, the tone arm is a piece of bent pipe.
The octagonal cases look nice, but, if you open it up, you will likely see a cheap single spring motor.
The reproducer is often off a 30's portable.
Crank is definately home made.
I hate to give you this news, but, I sincerely hope you haven't paid him yet.
Plus, from India, I'm not even sure it would survive, and, shipping would be expensive.
You'll have two choices. Boat, or, plane.
Neither is cheap.
There are better machines to buy, believe me.
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Post by Motorola man on Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:57 pm

I've seen "reconditioned" Victrolas in domestic catalogs for about $300. They may be the same type of build that Bill described, not really sure, but if you really want one, that may be a cheaper option.
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Post by Tony V on Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:21 pm

Yes, its definately a reproduction and not worth purchasing sorry to say.
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Re: Too good to be true?

Post by BarbS on Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:56 pm

Whew! I was able to retract the offer. Thanks! It was completely based on your feedback. I'm in a hurry to find one and I'm admittedly niave, I guess. I've gotten hooked and just have to have one! bounce I've been looking at antique stores, ebay, craigslist, aunts, uncles and anyone I can think of to find a phonograph or gramaphone (that works!) with a cylinder horn. Thanks again for your comments
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Post by BarbS on Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:04 pm

How about this one?
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Re: Too good to be true?

Post by Tony V on Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:15 pm

This is a real one and a nice machine. Only drawback is that the records for this machine are hard to find. This is a Standard brand model A machine and the hole in the center of the record is larger than most typical 78 records. Standard records do come available on ebay from time to time. I'm glad you turned down the deal on the reproduction though as i didnt want you to get ripped off. Feel free to post any machines you come across in your search and we will advise you the best we can on them. I too like the look of outside horn machines but there are lots of reproductions out there so beware.
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Re: Too good to be true?

Post by Bill Cahill on Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:27 am

Take a look at my other post here, Let us see your phonograph collection. It's a sticky.
You will see a couple of my machines in pictures.
You might fall in love with cylinder players, as I did.
I'm also very glad you were able to back out of that one. It definately was a bad deal.

Please feel free to post pictures of any macnines you find, with information such as asking price.
We will be glad to help you find a machine that will catch your interest.
I know I'm hooked!
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Re: Too good to be true?

Post by Wildcat445 on Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:35 pm

Barb........I am glad that this worked out well for you. Something about the first machine just did not look right to me. Good luck in your search. Glad that someone more savvy than I was able to assist you.

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