Mitchell Caravan model 583

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:00 am

Hello everybody, I just joined the forum. Wondering if anyone has any info on the Mitchell Caravan model 583 phonograph. I've been looking for a Photofact or schematic for years, can't seem to find anything on this model. I have one I'm wanting to restore, and I got one just like it for Christmas in 1960 when I was 6. I've been looking for one on Ebay for years, and this model must be very rare. Thanks
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:18 pm

Have you got a picture of it? It might jog someones memory. As far as repairing if it is just a record player you might can fix it without the schematic. In the past I would check the parts,replace bad ones and let it play.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by fixinmyphono on Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:27 pm

Wow thats a tough one for sure havent found anything on it yet.
avatar
fixinmyphono
Member
Member

Number of posts : 214
Age : 56
Registration date : 2011-09-13

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:47 pm

I replaced all the paper caps with orange drops and replaced the electrolytics in the can with new ones. However, I also replaced the 35w4 socket, and I think I may have wired it wrong. There's a wire connected to pin 1 and then going to a resistor and on to the electrolytics. Shouldn't this be connected to pin 7 (plate)? Like a dummy I drew a diagram of all the wiring except where the resistors go. I have some pictures but I don't know how to post them. Thanks
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:37 pm

I looked through my info and found something hopefully. I did a search in my photofacts and it lists some mitchells in photofact 492. I looked in it and it was a record player made in 1960. It listed it as similar to CH whatever that means. Anyway instead of it being a mitchell it was a coronado. My guess it maybe it was the same chassis but just put into a different case and relabeled. As far as yours goes what tubes are in it. someone might can match it up. Thre may be a similar model out there you might could match up to. If you do a search for a coronado and find one post a link. I will look at it I may have the info. I have all the riders and just about every photofact until about 91. I also have other stuff. If you have pictures on a digital camera and can send it ,send it to me and I will post it. Or you can click on the image bbutton above and insert it in there.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:53 pm

Tubes are 12av6, 50c5, 35w4. Thanks
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by Bill Cahill on Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:04 am

The correct pin to connect those parts to is Pin 7. Pin one isn't used.
Bill Cahill 35W4, that is......

_________________
Please also join us here;  http://videokarma.org/index.php
avatar
Bill Cahill
Admin
Admin

Number of posts : 4585
Age : 66
Registration date : 2008-03-12

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:06 am

I will try to look and see what I have in the way of that record player. One of the record players I looked at last night may have had that setup so it may be a relabeled player like yours. I will see if it does and scan it for you if so. If it is not exactly like it you may can get enough info to tell what it is. I wonder if the tube is wrong if you could have put the parts that went to the first pin on the last pin and vise versa. In other words reversed. Anyway I will dig around to see what I can dig up.


I just noticed you are in Nashville. They are going to have radio get together in Nashville on the weekend of Oct 8. I am going to try to go,as of now I will be there. Hopefully its ok to post a link, the info on the meeting is at
http://musiccityvintageradio.wordpress.com/upcoming-events-calendar/
I am not too far from Nashville, a little over an hour away.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:40 pm

Hey Steve, I sent you a PM. If you reply to my email address I will send you a scan of a Mitchell record player repair info pages I have. I wasn't able to send it to you by the PM. It has the same tubes and I bet its the same diagram or hopefully close enough to figure it out. If I have had trouble finding diagrams in the past I have looked for similar items. Many times I found it was the same diagram but different case.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:26 pm

PM part 2. I am sending you the attachments to you now. You should be getting them soon. I have two pages a diagram with pictures and a parts list. Its not the same number but it is the same tubes and a mitchell made the same time. So it may be the same amp just in a different case. If you don't get it let me know.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:21 pm

I finally got the pictures up.
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:31 pm

If the info I sent you is a lot different let me know. I think I seen one similar to yours with the three knobs. I think the one I sent you had 2. But it may be close enough to work.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by Golden Throat on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:37 pm

That's a very nice set, I wish I had one,

-Nolan

Golden Throat
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 4
Age : 21
Registration date : 2011-09-27

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:48 pm

I think that schematic should work, I think the only problem is the wiring on the 35w4, and it should be the same, right?
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:51 pm

Hey Nolan, thanks for the compliment, this player is cool to me because I got one just like it when I was 6 for Christmas, along with a 45 of Elvis's Rock a Hula Baby, and a Mitch Miller Sing Along Christmas Album in '60 or '61. My younger brother kept getting in to it and ruining the needle (Astatic). Steve
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by willy3486 on Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:36 am

steve72 wrote:I think that schematic should work, I think the only problem is the wiring on the 35w4, and it should be the same, right?
It depends . Keep in mind that the info I sent is not the exact model and I think it only has two controls on it. I may have one that is more like yours now that I have seen a picture. I will see if I can find one closer and send it to you. But hopefully it should be close. Its odd that the list I have does not have your model as it has other mitchells.

willy3486
Member
Member

Number of posts : 1428
Registration date : 2011-07-02

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:34 pm

Hey Willy, the Mitchell is up and running! It's playing an old mono Beatles Veejay record right now. I wired the 35w4 like the schematic and still had no sound, then I noticed the tube wasn't lit. When I replaced the tube with one from another player it came to life. It still has the tubes that say Mitchell on them. I really appreciate all the help, I've been scratching my head over this thing for 6 years. Steve
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by fixinmyphono on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:36 pm

Nice to see you got it up and running!
avatar
fixinmyphono
Member
Member

Number of posts : 214
Age : 56
Registration date : 2011-09-13

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by steve72 on Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:42 pm

Yeah, Bill Cahill called it right, thanks Bill! This thing brings back a lot of memories. I love the smell of hot tubes.
avatar
steve72
New Member
New Member

Number of posts : 9
Age : 63
Registration date : 2011-09-26

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by Bill Cahill on Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:21 am

You are welcome. Glad to help.
Bill Cahill

_________________
Please also join us here;  http://videokarma.org/index.php
avatar
Bill Cahill
Admin
Admin

Number of posts : 4585
Age : 66
Registration date : 2008-03-12

Back to top Go down

Re: Mitchell Caravan model 583

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum